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PostSubject: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed May 27, 2009 7:00 pm

Hello, I am pretty much restarting my cycle because my ammonia was out of control due to me adding to much. Anyways I have been doing much research on cichlids and what I like and i have narrowed it down to 4 types.
I am looking to see how many of each fish would be good for a 55gallon tank and what will mix ok and what may not. Also if another type would work well a replacement fish list would be alot of help.


Acei Cichlid
Cobalt Blue Cichlid
Yellow Lab
Red Zebra Cichlid

Also suggestions for a bottom feeder that will work with these types would be much help. Thank you ahead of time.

55gallon / 8.2 ph / hard water / doing a "fishless cycle" currently ( 1 month in with no nitirites in sight >< )
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed May 27, 2009 8:45 pm

for the cats i would suggest a syndontis cat i have one in my cichlid tank
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed May 27, 2009 9:22 pm

After reading the "cookie cutter" tips it seems like this would work

3 - red zebra -
3 - cobalt blue cichlid
3 - yellow labs
2 - Synodontis Catfish

or maybe just 2 different types of bottom feeders?
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed May 27, 2009 9:40 pm

I have 2 Synodontis Catfish I'm looking to sell What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu May 28, 2009 12:31 pm

that would work fine grays!
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu May 28, 2009 1:33 pm

grays wrote:
After reading the "cookie cutter" tips it seems like this would work

3 - red zebra -
3 - cobalt blue cichlid
3 - yellow labs
2 - Synodontis Catfish

or maybe just 2 different types of bottom feeders?

The only thing I would change would be four of each and one syno cat.
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu May 28, 2009 1:58 pm

k done deal ill post pics when i get them
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 6:10 pm

So i was annoyed and got some fish. I got 3 labs and a Synodontis Catfish the labs are maybe 1 and a half inches and the catfish is maybe 2 and a half inches. Anyways the labs are being dicks to the catfish and nipping at him...

Question how do i stop this?
I added the labs first then the catfish a week later i guess
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 6:38 pm

More hiding spots and give it some time they will leave him alone as soon as they don't see him as a threat. Keep an eye on parameters and don't let the ammonia or nitrite creep up on ya. Also what type of test are you using and what type of Synodontis did you get?
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 7:15 pm

im using the master api kit and the one i got was from petsmart and was just labeled Synodontis catfish IT LOOKS like this guy http://www.malawicichlidhomepage.com/greek/articlesgreek/pic0014ar.JPG
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umm...those can get a foot or better and grow pretty fast.
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 11:30 pm

ummm it said 6-8 inches and everything i saw online said 6=8 inches.... why would someone tell me to get a foot long fish for a 55 gallon?
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you would be surprised on what people buy from store recomendations but shouldnt actually be buying
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 am

grays wrote:
ummm it said 6-8 inches and everything i saw online said 6=8 inches.... why would someone tell me to get a foot long fish for a 55 gallon?

A lot of times fish stores mis-label fish and requirements...The bad thing is Petsmart and a lot of the chain stores don't know much about what they order or keep in their stores...The pic you put up is a Synodontis longirostris which is commonly sold at Petsmart stores...The three most common synodontis sold at Petsmarts are Synodontis longirostris, Synodontis euptera (suitable for a 55g) and Synodontis nigriventris.


Unfortunately the one you posted a pic of is Synodontis longirostris gets up to 22 inches.
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species=synodontis+longirostris&species_id=547
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu Jun 04, 2009 2:07 am

On the plus side, Petsmart has that 14 day return anything policy. You could try and see if they have the other one and swap.
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu Jun 04, 2009 11:28 am

It doesnt really look like the one i first posted. Here is a pick of it. Looks like a much shorter square nose and big fin on the back Free Image Hosting at <a href=www.ImageShack.us" />

QuickPost Quickpost this image to Myspace, Digg, Facebook, and others! Sorry about crappy pic he was moving alot
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That is a Synodontis longirostris for sure...
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu Jun 04, 2009 4:31 pm

blah you guys are right im annoyed lol. What other bottom feeders would be good? the petsmart i go to had this and a bunch of other large catfish... but nothing smallish
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyThu Jun 04, 2009 6:30 pm

Look and see if they have any Synodontis euptera they only get about 7-8 inches and would work for your 55g. Also, many would not recommend this but I have done it witth success, Pimelodus Pictus catfish would work in your setup.
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptySat Jun 06, 2009 6:16 pm

Yep they have that Synodontis eupterus at petsmart just fyi its labeled as featherfin catfish. doh
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptySat Jun 06, 2009 6:59 pm

grays wrote:
Yep they have that Synodontis eupterus at petsmart just fyi its labeled as featherfin catfish. doh
Cool, the common name for the Synodontis eupterus is Featherfin Syno. Are you going to switch them out? The featherfins are really cool and scarf anything that hits the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptySat Jun 06, 2009 7:41 pm

Yea I took the other one back but had stuff to do today away from the house so didnt get the featherfin
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyMon Jun 08, 2009 7:56 pm

Just a funny comment about petsmart. I went back today to get my catfish and just being nice i asked the guy if that catfish and cichlids got along. The guy said "the cichlids will strip it to the bone" my response was "ill take it" i may be a nub but i think he may of been confused with a parana or something.
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PostSubject: Re: still picking / cycling   still picking / cycling EmptyMon Jun 08, 2009 8:20 pm

Cool, glad we could help you out....not sure what he was thinking of but...who knows , Petsmart employees. Glad you got your catfish and on that will be good size for that tank!
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Glad to see you got your catfish.
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