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| Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s | |
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| Subject: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:49 pm | |
| Well, I told him about how I found a home for one of the 29s. My friend Eron goes to her dad's every once in awhile and last time, she found a little 2-inch RES. Saint, your expetise here, but she wants the 29 for him cause he won't live in a 10 forever. I moved the plants temporarily to a 2 liter bottle so I don't have to deal with the 9-incher ruining them. And I have the one HOB running and I'm saving the media, I have 2 pieces in 1 HOB and the other an inch under gravel. I would like a set-up with my Senegal and HRP male, female might have to go for a set-up depleted of hormonal Convict relatives. So, I was wondering, could I have a Salvini with the HRP? Also, another Senegal or an Ornate? Ideas welcome, all comments welcome, critism welcome. Thx, I love Christmas. | |
| | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler
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Age : 56 Location : Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor : "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish : I won't choose and ya can't make me!
| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:34 am | |
| Are ya talking 'bout what ya can have in the 100 as far as havin' a salvini and more bichirs? 'Cuz ya can't wouldn't want to add any more to the 29.
As for the RES, from talkin' to saint 'bout turtles since I've been thinkin' of one, he recommended a 75 gallon for a grown RES.
WYite | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:08 am | |
| Yep. 75 for an adult male is usually good. I've seen a few males that were small enough full grown that a 55 would work, but you're not going to know that at two inches. Females on the other hand, have the exact opposite problem. I've tended to females that would have been cramped in a 75 (Turtle K turn!) and as a minimum would have been better off with a 2 foot by 4 foot 120g.
A livestock tub, larger preformed pond, or building your own with a flexible pond liner are all cheaper. That being said, a 29 would make a fine grow out tank for a year or two. | |
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:25 am | |
| getting rid of both and getting the hundred. I'm really sick today and headache is horibile | |
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:45 am | |
| Well, would this plan work? 1x Rotkeil Severum 1x Green Severum 1x Electric Blue Jack Dempsey (will be grown out first) 1x Festivum 8x Bosemani Rainbows 1x Senegal Bichir
Also, this set-up allows me to keep the Rainbows, Severums, and Festivum for a community with 4"+ community fish like Denison Barbs, Buenos Aires, and Silver Dollars | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
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Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:45 pm | |
| Probabally would work out nicely! | |
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:03 pm | |
| Well, I actually posted this on TFF too, and they didn't agree. Will try this first though. Then their idea, which is below. TFF Idea 1x Rotkeil Severum 1x Green Severum 2x Festivum 1x Black Acara 4x Silver Dollars Pair of BN
Note: Been had a account on TFF so, might aswell get help from both sites? Always vote for here only so, not a traitor. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
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Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:21 pm | |
| Why wouldn't the first work? It is almost identical but a larger bio-load and more Cichlids? | |
| | | dirtydawg10 Global Moderator
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Age : 52 Location : Connecticut Favorite Fish : Severum
| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:54 pm | |
| I'm guessing because the full grown JD will cause trouble with juvies of the other fish. The rainbows could also be an expensive snack. | |
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:38 pm | |
| Well, true about the snack. EBJDs are known to be less aggressive so, hoping he won't see them as colorful, expensive snacks. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
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Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:30 pm | |
| JD's are lazy and their aggression is over rated IMO. I have kept giant dianos and rainbows with my JD's and Severums...they pretty much ignored them....Silver dollars are also a very good choice though. Finding a EBJD who has strong genes will be difficult also not recommended for the novice fish keeper. Not saying you are a novice but they can be difficult to keep and hard to find ones with strong genes. I would go with the Severums, Festivums, 2x acaras the Silver Dollars and the rainbows! | |
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:53 pm | |
| Still going for EBJD MC. Gonna atleast try right? Plus, pretty sure LFS has good stock. Could be Mark's fish for all I know since he keeps JD's and bred a Blue gene with a EBJD. Never know, but doubt it. Edit: not saying he did do it but, coulda. Gonna ask him. | |
| | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:28 am | |
| I agree with MC, don't think the JD would be a threat to the rainbows. I've had the same experience and made the same observations with JDs. I'd think 'bout the bichir though. It's gonna get 12"-16" long, will hunt at night when the rainbows are least active and vulnerable, and I've seen pics of bichirs with some pretty darn big fish in their mouths relative to their girth. From that standpoint, ya may be better off with silver dollars.
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:56 pm | |
| Could get rid of the Bichir when it gets big enough to eat a Rainbow. Maybe could trade it in for something else or suplies, but could do that | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:44 am | |
| I second what Wyite said as far as bichirs go. Even if they can't fit it in their mouth they're still gonna *try* to fit it in their mouth. They're also fond of biting larger slow moving fish or anything with long fins just for the hell of it.
Bichirs are neat and I like 'em, but when I've had them here I've found it far easier to house them alone. | |
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:30 am | |
| So, I shoul;d leave it out all together or either make tank a Bichir tank? I've seen some pretty good Bichir only tanks. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:48 pm | |
| I would leave it out, plus it is harder to get rid of larger fish. | |
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| Subject: Re: Well, I need plans for a set-up. Was guaranteed the 100 Gallon if I can get rid of the 29s Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:00 pm | |
| Yeah, put the HRP's out to see how they'll fair in the pond. Already seem to have chose a breeding spot. Never relized it but, I said I might try discus when I have atleast 100 gallons and wonder how a Sev x discusx angel combo might work out. May have to grow out discus before hand and find a good source. Wonder if Grandad will let me order from LiveAquaria. Could also try Petsmart | |
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