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PostSubject: ram angel   ram angel EmptySat Feb 13, 2010 10:59 pm

lfs has some hybrid rams/angels. Anybody seen or heard of this? I wanna know if they would be ok with either my community tank of the discu tank.
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PostSubject: Re: ram angel   ram angel EmptySun Feb 14, 2010 1:38 am

I suspect that particular cichlid hybrid combo is genetically not possible. They're too far apart on the family tree. That would be akin to crossin' a whitetail to a caribou, ya know what I mean? I'll state up front I may be wrong, but it sure seems like a stretch. If they are legit, they would almost certainly hafta be a result of artificial fertilization.

I was rackin' my brain on ram variants that could be passed as ram/angel hybrids. After thinkin' 'bout it, I'm wonderin' if they aren't a long-finned, balloon/popcorn ram?

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PostSubject: Re: ram angel   ram angel EmptySun Feb 14, 2010 1:58 am

they were pretty small but they didnt look long finned. although they were really compressed like a popcorn might be.
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PostSubject: Re: ram angel   ram angel EmptySun Feb 14, 2010 4:17 pm

Wyomingite wrote:
I suspect that particular cichlid hybrid combo is genetically not possible. They're too far apart on the family tree. That would be akin to crossin' a whitetail to a caribou, ya know what I mean? I'll state up front I may be wrong, but it sure seems like a stretch. If they are legit, they would almost certainly hafta be a result of artificial fertilization.

I was rackin' my brain on ram variants that could be passed as ram/angel hybrids. After thinkin' 'bout it, I'm wonderin' if they aren't a long-finned, balloon/popcorn ram?

WYite

I would have to agree.
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PostSubject: Re: ram angel   ram angel EmptySun Feb 14, 2010 9:20 pm

pretty sure that they are indeed a popcorn ram. Amy idea how they may be in with discus?
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PostSubject: Re: ram angel   ram angel EmptySun Feb 14, 2010 10:59 pm

Regular rams are usually recommended with discus, I'd say these should be alright.

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PostSubject: Re: ram angel   ram angel EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 3:29 am

they are most likely balloon rams, they are round like a discus but they are in fact a ram, they dont do well as the compression to their bodies leads to problems with their digestive system. Alot of asian fish stores like to call them angel rams to make them sell faster then if they were called balloon rams.
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PostSubject: Re: ram angel   ram angel EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 12:00 pm

:hi1:
angel ram are balloon ram it is not hybrid fish its a deformed fish as anther balloon fish "start from balloon molly to balloon Texas etc ."
they happened due to several things as a pre-time breed "try to breed young fish " or a bad breeding water conditions ...
the ram/angel is a commercial name to sell fish faster as some LFS say the Chinese high fin shark is a shark or a lotch to sell it faster or when they call a normal pacu a pacu piranha or something like that
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