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+5Celticwraith dirtydawg10 Grumpa Wyomingite cooltow1 9 posters | |
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cooltow1 Member
Posts : 96
Age : 74 Location : Sarasota Fl Humor : once upon a time Favorite Fish : only GOLDFISH
| Subject: goldfish - good ones Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:06 am | |
| I'll most likely burn you all out over the next couple of days with the pictures and videos I'll post pictures of the fish farm in a day or so Rick | |
| | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler
Posts : 1781
Age : 56 Location : Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor : "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish : I won't choose and ya can't make me!
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:41 am | |
| I for one always enjoy seeing pics of well-kept fish.
Those are some of the nicest fancy goldfish I've seen pics of in a long time, Rick. Never have been into goldies myself, and not real up on the terminology of the different shapes and varieties.
So I'll ask ya a question or two. What are the ones that have the big bellies and hunched backs, ya have one video with the two orange ones and the other video with several white and orange ones (the first video above)? Heck, they may even by different varieties for all I know, LOL. I know they have been line-bred that way, but do they end up with a lot of intestinal and/or swim bladder complications? It sure looks like everything is kind of crammed in there and may be a little awkwardly placed. What have ya been feedin' 'em? Like I said, very nice looking fish.
Ivan, a.k.a. WYite | |
| | | Grumpa Master Profiler
Posts : 1220
Age : 52 Location : cichlid world Humor : Not often Favorite Fish : tanganikian
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:22 am | |
| Wow thay are some nice goldies! | |
| | | cooltow1 Member
Posts : 96
Age : 74 Location : Sarasota Fl Humor : once upon a time Favorite Fish : only GOLDFISH
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:29 am | |
| Here are a few of the fishroom / growout houses and a few filter/water change system | |
| | | dirtydawg10 Global Moderator
Posts : 3098
Age : 52 Location : Connecticut Favorite Fish : Severum
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:24 am | |
| Wow! Nice fish and the fish room...well...what can I say...I HATE YOU...j/k | |
| | | cooltow1 Member
Posts : 96
Age : 74 Location : Sarasota Fl Humor : once upon a time Favorite Fish : only GOLDFISH
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:59 am | |
| - Wyomingite wrote:
- I for one always enjoy seeing pics of well-kept fish.
Those are some of the nicest fancy goldfish I've seen pics of in a long time, Rick. Never have been into goldies myself, and not real up on the terminology of the different shapes and varieties.
So I'll ask ya a question or two. What are the ones that have the big bellies and hunched backs, ya have one video with the two orange ones and the other video with several white and orange ones (the first video above)? Heck, they may even by different varieties for all I know, LOL. I know they have been line-bred that way, but do they end up with a lot of intestinal and/or swim bladder complications? It sure looks like everything is kind of crammed in there and may be a little awkwardly placed. What have ya been feedin' 'em? Like I said, very nice looking fish.
Ivan, a.k.a. WYite The livestock with the hunched backs are Ryukins, by goldfish standards a relative new breed maybe only a 50 to 100 years old that is Chinese in origin. These fish are predisposed to swim bladder "Tip Over" (swimming head down). The Trick with raising good fancy Goldfish is in the culling process. At the first sign that a fish my have a SB problem he goes to the S2BU tank. I only raise 100 to 200 fish a year that will grade AA(show quality) The Cull rate is about 90 to 95% that doesn't mean these fish are destroyed the A and B grade fish are raised to 1" size and sold to LFS, all C grade are use as feeders.About 50% will be feeder fish by 14 days old.These are use to conditions my breeders. The other big thing is Water Quality. I can not begin to explain the important of good water this translates into about 15% per day in the water change department.Levels for the big 3 are always in the 0,0,0 range with the pH @7.8 AS far as what I feed: 1) Bulk pellet 2) A home made gel food that is veggy based 3) Livefood And that about it as far as raise them but you have to start with the very best stock you can get your hands on Rick | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
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Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:20 pm | |
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| | | WaterChangeWarrior Member
Posts : 111
Age : 65 Location : Indiana Humor : sick/dry Favorite Fish : dwarf cichlids, corys, plecos, killies, livebearers, oddballs
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:07 pm | |
| WOW! That is an awesome setup you have assembled there Rick! Not to mention the quality of the fish! Very inspiring! Congratulations on a job well done! Labor of love, I am sure! | |
| | | cooltow1 Member
Posts : 96
Age : 74 Location : Sarasota Fl Humor : once upon a time Favorite Fish : only GOLDFISH
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:34 pm | |
| - WaterChangeWarrior wrote:
- WOW!
That is an awesome setup you have assembled there Rick! Not to mention the quality of the fish! Very inspiring!
Congratulations on a job well done! Labor of love, I am sure! It's a on going project that started almost 20 years ago. Little did I know that I would never finish it I would really like to redo the fishroom in the next couple of years. It's very user friendly but not very pretty and with Dear Wife thing need to be pretty Rick | |
| | | WaterChangeWarrior Member
Posts : 111
Age : 65 Location : Indiana Humor : sick/dry Favorite Fish : dwarf cichlids, corys, plecos, killies, livebearers, oddballs
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:14 pm | |
| Looks like a little personal plot of paradise to me! | |
| | | dirtydawg10 Global Moderator
Posts : 3098
Age : 52 Location : Connecticut Favorite Fish : Severum
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:58 pm | |
| It looks pretty to me... | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
Posts : 1930
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:28 pm | |
| S2BU tank! Bwahahaha. Glad I'm not the only one that has a few of those. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:15 am | |
| That is great...I bet you are proud of your acomplishments...They look great! | |
| | | cooltow1 Member
Posts : 96
Age : 74 Location : Sarasota Fl Humor : once upon a time Favorite Fish : only GOLDFISH
| Subject: New bloodline Sat May 15, 2010 3:02 pm | |
| New bloodline from China got here today 7F and 3M Video not very good Rick | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Sun May 16, 2010 1:49 am | |
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| | | Ichthius Member
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Age : 47
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:11 am | |
| Cooltow1 is stealing images from people like me and posting them on the net as their own. The animated video below his name showing the amazing Oishi Top view Ranchu males that were imported by NeoRanchu in 2006 was stolen from me. You can see it in it's original from here: http://goldfishgarage.blogspot.com/search?q=tequilaThese fish were given to me in a cooking with tequila class because I was wearing a ranchu breeders social tee shirt. The guy asked me if I wanted a couple TVR, my jaw dropped, I asked Oishi from NeoRanchu and he said yes. He lived 3 blocks away. Since I was given these two males two other kind soles gave me 5 more of these imported fish. This was the last breeder direct named line of Ranchu imported from Japan. None of the pictures this internet their posts are their own. Just look at their youtube account. 3 lousy posts of crap goldfish. Not likely to have all these nice fish and high tech fishrooms and only have 3 lousy videos. Visit their picasa photos they claim as their own and their are fish from all over the world and fishrooms from all over the world. The greenhouses are from asia and most likely Japan. Not built by the same person. Sorry to rant on my first post but if you'd like to see the real deal please check out my blog at goldfishgarage dot com. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:30 am | |
| Can you PM me with proof of this and maybe refrence some threads, sources? I would like to have some source information to base this allegation on. Thanks! The fish room in this thread is really the only thing they claim to be theirs the actual fish photos have no clain to be theirs. | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
Posts : 1930
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:54 pm | |
| The way it read to me was that this was all his stuff, I can see based on the way Cooltow1 phrased it that it could mean that they were other people's fishies though...
If it is true, I guess it explains why I never heard anything as far as a source of feeders go though.. | |
| | | Ichthius Member
Posts : 6
Age : 47
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:42 pm | |
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| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
Posts : 1930
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:45 pm | |
| Can you please explain the date discrepancy in your posting and his?
The link that you claim Cooltow1 stole your pictures from is dated 3/25/2009 and the blog posting your claiming is the source of the photos was posted on 10/12/2009
How did Cooltow1 post your pictures before they were available on your blog? | |
| | | Ichthius Member
Posts : 6
Age : 47
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:00 pm | |
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| | | dirtydawg10 Global Moderator
Posts : 3098
Age : 52 Location : Connecticut Favorite Fish : Severum
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:09 pm | |
| Strange! If this is true I simply can't understand why people waste their time making up shit like this. | |
| | | Ichthius Member
Posts : 6
Age : 47
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:20 pm | |
| It's their own little version of second life or what not. Virtual reality. I just live in the real world. It's much easier to take credit for someone elses work. I'm sure he's just a lonely old dude trying to get attention. Search his user name around the web and search mine Ichthius (not the one on fish forums .com but I'm the original!). I'm sure my content is clearly authentic... Look at my youtube account: https://www.youtube.com/user/IchthiusLook at his: https://www.youtube.com/user/cooltow1Who would you trust the content to belong too. Nuff said. Peace out. | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
Posts : 1930
| Subject: Re: goldfish - good ones Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:31 pm | |
| It's not that we (as in the royal we) don't believe you, it's just as MC said, we'd want some solid proof as to the source before we start accusing anyone of anything. I had done some digging on my own, after my post, and you'd do better to link to the original photo albums instead of your blog. For example Ichthius's photo album: http://picasaweb.google.com/DavidLains/JoeSGoldfishTank#5191582608041877538Cooltow1's photo album: https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/Fishroom#5430425632528569922Cooltow1's photos were posted in his album on March 26th, the same day as the fishchannel posts, however, his pictures are missing all the EXIF data, as in the photo information that the camera writes to the file when the picture is taken. Compared in Photoshop, Ichthius's photo is 640x480 and Cooltow1's photo, is 639x479. A small cropping like that can be enough to drop the EXIF data from the pic, depending on the program used. I know Photoshop won't but there's a lot (a lot lot) of photo editing programs out there, and that's just assuming Windows as the only OS. Magic 8ball says: Outlook not so good. | |
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