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ninjastar
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PostSubject: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 2:19 am

Just went to go look at my tank and it looks like my Junior.( my male oscar) has ich. I noticed it had a few white spots. What do I do, do I buy medication, do I raise the temp in the tank, do I do a water change?

He and as well as the other fish are swimming normal and eating good.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 2:40 am

If it's ick, I reccommend the salt treatment. Are the other fish showing symptoms as well?
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 2:46 am

Found this for you.
http://www.freshwatermadness.com/fish-health-and-medications-f13/ich-medication-vs-non-medication-t1236.htm

I have used the heat/salt treatment several times. I have used it on a heavily planted tank and no harm was done to my plants. You must keep the treatment up for at least a week after all visible signs are gone.
Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 3:03 am

I justed raised the temp to 86. Now what do I do? I will buy the salt tom. Once I get the salt what do I do and how much do I put? Also what else should I do?
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 9:47 am

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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:11 am

I agree with the salt heat treatment is has worked for me on a couple of occasions.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:16 am

ninjastar wrote:
I justed raised the temp to 86. Now what do I do? I will buy the salt tom. Once I get the salt what do I do and how much do I put? Also what else should I do?

I would recommend 1 to 3 teaspoons of salt per gallon. I usually use 2 teaspoons per gallon myself. Take some water out of your tank add some salt to it (small amounts at a time-don't add it all at once) then mix it well and pour it back in the tank. Every 20 to 30 min. do the same routine until all the salt has been added. It will take several hours. Also the heat should be raised gradually but it looks like that has already been done.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:38 am

Would the salt hurt my fish in anyway? Also is their enough salt in the package to do 2tsp per gal?
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:42 am

For a 100 gal. that is 200 teaspoons or 66 tablespoons of salt. A whole lot of salt. Another reason for the quarrantine tank I had mentioned to you before. It allows you to catch the disease before it is introduced to a large tank and you would be able to treat a smaller volume of water.

Since the tank is so big you may want to cut back to 1 teaspoon per gallon which is...

100 teaspoons or 33 tablespoons.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:51 am

Oh...and it won't harm your fish unless you add the salt all at once or don't dilute it in water first.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:52 am

Are you planning to use ordinary table salt?
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 12:28 pm

No Im going to get Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Aquarium Salt from petco. So Every 30min I add a tsp of salt while doing your method?
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 9:36 pm

Just get plain table salt, much cheaper and easier to mix. For 100g you can add 1.5 canisters safely which is approx. 200 tsp.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 9:43 pm

Mostlycichlids wrote:
Just get plain table salt, much cheaper and easier to mix. For 100g you can add 1.5 canisters safely which is approx. 200 tsp.

I thought it was bad to use table salt from the kitchen?
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyTue Mar 23, 2010 1:33 am

ninjastar wrote:
Mostlycichlids wrote:
Just get plain table salt, much cheaper and easier to mix. For 100g you can add 1.5 canisters safely which is approx. 200 tsp.

I thought it was bad to use table salt from the kitchen?

Just make sure that you don't get the iodized table salt, get the plain.

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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyTue Mar 23, 2010 2:05 am

So other than price whats the difference between the both?
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyTue Mar 23, 2010 9:47 am

One has iodine one dont....
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyTue Mar 23, 2010 10:58 pm

What would you guys buy from the food store if I do get that salt cause I already spent 10bucks on the aqurium salt.
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyWed Mar 24, 2010 12:56 am

Spots are slowly going away. And all I did was 1 30%water change with about 18tsp of last and rasing the temp to 90 degrees
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PostSubject: Re: ich PLZ HELP ME   ich PLZ HELP ME EmptyWed Mar 24, 2010 8:39 am

You shouldn't raise the temps that high. I wouldn't go above 86. The temps speed up the lifecycle of the Ich. The Ich won't die until it drops off the fish and becomes free swimming. At that point is when the salt and heat does its work. I would keep adding salt and lower the heat as I said before. If you already bought aquarium salt you should just use that.
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