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+3Celticwraith WhiteGloveAquatics dwarf cichlids in Tucson 7 posters | Author | Message |
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dwarf cichlids in Tucson Member
Posts : 162
Age : 65 Location : Tucson Az Favorite Fish : Apitogramas as well as South American Dwarf cichlids cory cats and tetras discus and angelfish
| Subject: SNAILS Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:56 pm | |
| I have a 40 gal planted tank that I just restarted and the plants I have bought brought in snails I want the plant eating things gone.There use to be a product called Rid a snail I have looked on line and in all the stores in Az and cantnot find it? Is it still on the market? HOW DO I kill them | |
| | | WhiteGloveAquatics Member
Posts : 134
Age : 44 Location : Chicagoland Humor : raunchy and mean Favorite Fish : Discus,Rams,Angels,Dwarf cichlids,tetras oh and flathead catfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:21 pm | |
| Assassin snails,loaches(yo-yos are awesome snail eaters). I know fishypharmacy has a chemical called de-los that WILL nuke then dead but If its plant only you are fine, http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/products.html#Djust dont use with prehistoric fish (sharks,catfish ect) It works wonders. I bought a pound of it for my 210 when some plants brought in eggs of the bastid pond snail. | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
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Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:20 pm | |
| I agree with WhiteGlove. I have had Yo-yo loaches for some time now and at the time I purchased them my tank was full of snails, the yo-yo's cleared up that problem. | |
| | | WhiteGloveAquatics Member
Posts : 134
Age : 44 Location : Chicagoland Humor : raunchy and mean Favorite Fish : Discus,Rams,Angels,Dwarf cichlids,tetras oh and flathead catfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:11 pm | |
| Don't you just love the way they stack the empty shells?
mine stash em in spots around wood and flora. Got a nice big pile in the 210 now. I like the wrath of the yo-yo
One other one is the Banjo cat. | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
Posts : 561
Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:32 pm | |
| Mine left them all over, but more around the plants. Great fish for getting rid of snails. | |
| | | dwarf cichlids in Tucson Member
Posts : 162
Age : 65 Location : Tucson Az Favorite Fish : Apitogramas as well as South American Dwarf cichlids cory cats and tetras discus and angelfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:06 pm | |
| Thanks guys I knew I could count on you | |
| | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler
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Age : 56 Location : Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor : "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish : I won't choose and ya can't make me!
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:47 pm | |
| - WhiteGloveAquatics wrote:
- One other one is the Banjo cat.
Really? Wish my banjo cats would get busy. Brought some ramshorns and pond snails in to my planted 55, and now I can't get rid of 'em. Gonna hafta relent and throw some loaches in there for a while, even though they don't fit the Essequibo River biotope I got goin'. - dwarf cichlids in Tucson wrote:
- I have a 40 gal planted tank that I just restarted and the plants I have bought brought in snails I want the plant eating things gone.There use to be a product called Rid a snail I have looked on line and in all the stores in Az and cantnot find it? Is it still on the market? HOW DO I kill them
IIRC, Rid-a-Snail was horrid on plants, so best off to look for an alternative method even if you do find it. I have three zebra loaches ( Botia striata) in my SE Asian planted community tank, and they made short work of the MTSs in it. WYite | |
| | | WhiteGloveAquatics Member
Posts : 134
Age : 44 Location : Chicagoland Humor : raunchy and mean Favorite Fish : Discus,Rams,Angels,Dwarf cichlids,tetras oh and flathead catfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:26 am | |
| Yes, banjos are known snail eaters. the problem is the small mouthes the banjos have. | |
| | | dwarf cichlids in Tucson Member
Posts : 162
Age : 65 Location : Tucson Az Favorite Fish : Apitogramas as well as South American Dwarf cichlids cory cats and tetras discus and angelfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:38 pm | |
| Thanks again guys me question is can Dojos handle my low P H its 6.0 I have lots of soft water fish so I keep lots of drift wood in my tanks to keep it that way. Also is there something that I can treat the new plants with that wont hurt them but will kill any snails and their eggs that come in in on the plants. | |
| | | WhiteGloveAquatics Member
Posts : 134
Age : 44 Location : Chicagoland Humor : raunchy and mean Favorite Fish : Discus,Rams,Angels,Dwarf cichlids,tetras oh and flathead catfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:14 pm | |
| yes you can use ALUM on a 3 day dip for the plants, this will not kill them all but they loosen their grip and fall to the bottom of the bucket http://www.aquariumplants.com/Articles.asp?ID=111go halfway down that page, past the illustrations and junk there is a section how to rid hitchhikers from aquatic plants. As far as loaches go try this out http://www.loaches.com/species-indexcant get more info then that site has to offer, its 100% pure loach content. | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
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Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:14 pm | |
| ALUM works great I used it on all my new plants after I heard of it. | |
| | | dwarf cichlids in Tucson Member
Posts : 162
Age : 65 Location : Tucson Az Favorite Fish : Apitogramas as well as South American Dwarf cichlids cory cats and tetras discus and angelfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:08 pm | |
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| | | Rummynose1 Member
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Age : 70 Location : Houston-Tx Humor : Humor me!! Favorite Fish : Characins, Barbs, Loaches, Cichlids, but if I have to choose one definitely the Rummynose Tetras in schooling groups.
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:03 am | |
| I am new at this business so I don't know who will be getting this message, but I can tell you what has been working for me. I too, have a planted aquarium and I keep Skunk loaches in my tank, the main reason skunk loach is because they do not get big at all and they do not attack the plants either. I have an 150 gal planted aquarium and I have kept 4 skunk loaches and two Japanese Dojos for the past 2 or 3 years, they are peaceful fish and vociferous ( they make a clicking sound) when excited. I do not recommend any type of chemical to kill your snail problem, because not only will it kill the snails, but your plants will also be greatly affected, and ram sack your good bacterias in your bio-filter. | |
| | | WhiteGloveAquatics Member
Posts : 134
Age : 44 Location : Chicagoland Humor : raunchy and mean Favorite Fish : Discus,Rams,Angels,Dwarf cichlids,tetras oh and flathead catfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:43 am | |
| De-Los wont kill the plants. my 210 is heavily planted, I made sure of that, ALUM is a pickling spice and will not harm the plants at all, even soaking for two weeks in it.
Pakistani aka yo-yo loaches only get 3-4" max and do the same, skunk loaches arent readily availble up here by me and they would have been my first choice over yo-yo's
we all get the messages you type in the reply box. Welcome to the forum, we'd love to see pics and/or videos of your set-up.(Im an aquascaper by profession as part or what I offer my customers) | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
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| Subject: Re: SNAILS Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:13 am | |
| I guess I've lucked out. Outside of the one tank with apples, that are absolute destroyers of plants or any other organic matter really, I've never had any that caused me any trouble.
Do you all just not like the look of the little pond snails? Or is it an issue of not having anything to do with them when they start to go nuts in the tank? | |
| | | WhiteGloveAquatics Member
Posts : 134
Age : 44 Location : Chicagoland Humor : raunchy and mean Favorite Fish : Discus,Rams,Angels,Dwarf cichlids,tetras oh and flathead catfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:18 pm | |
| pond snails eat live plants, thats been my personal vendetta against them. | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
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| Subject: Re: SNAILS Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:01 am | |
| I got some nasty tasting plants then. My tanks have mint, water sprite, moss balls, and some thing I could never find out what it was but my mom calls it water poppy. There's a variety of different sorts of snails, little easily squished pondies, bigger striped ones (briggs I think?) ones that look like trumpets and a few trapdoors. Outside of feeding them to the smaller turtles, I've never looked into what they are, so I'm not sure if I just lucked out or what. | |
| | | Rummynose1 Member
Posts : 2
Age : 70 Location : Houston-Tx Humor : Humor me!! Favorite Fish : Characins, Barbs, Loaches, Cichlids, but if I have to choose one definitely the Rummynose Tetras in schooling groups.
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:50 am | |
| Boy I am having a fit trying to figure this portal, someone welcomed me, but when I try to respond I can't find the person, anyway he asked me to show some pic, I do have some but they are not recent ones, so it wouldn't be fair. I will try to make some time to take some new pictures so I can post them, but as I said I am having a hard time navigating in this portal, but I will keep trying . | |
| | | WhiteGloveAquatics Member
Posts : 134
Age : 44 Location : Chicagoland Humor : raunchy and mean Favorite Fish : Discus,Rams,Angels,Dwarf cichlids,tetras oh and flathead catfish
| Subject: Re: SNAILS Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:05 pm | |
| - saint_felony wrote:
- I got some nasty tasting plants then.
My tanks have mint, water sprite, moss balls, and some thing I could never find out what it was but my mom calls it water poppy. There's a variety of different sorts of snails, little easily squished pondies, bigger striped ones (briggs I think?) ones that look like trumpets and a few trapdoors.
Outside of feeding them to the smaller turtles, I've never looked into what they are, so I'm not sure if I just lucked out or what. the ones I had come in made swiss chesse of my swords, crypt spiralis and italian vals. I had to toss my red tiger lotuses because they were eaten away to nothing. | |
| | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer
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| Subject: Re: SNAILS Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:07 pm | |
| That sucks. I completely understand the snail hate then. | |
| | | graigjonns Banned
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| Subject: Re: SNAILS Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:54 pm | |
| I agree WhiteGlove. I have a yo-yo loach for some time, when I bought them that my tank is full of snails, yo-yo's clarify the issue. | |
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