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saint_felony
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PostSubject: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 12:28 am

So, I think I need to find a newer and or better fish disease/treatment book.

I took in two mangled JDs today from my local petsmart, and I can not find what is up with them.

The first JD has pop eye on one side, and marks that could be hole in the head or it could be from fighting over the same eye. I've never seen pop eye in only one eye ball before, so I'm leaning towards/hoping it's just fighting.

The second JD a gigantic gold one and has what looks like crystals growing out of the side of it's body and head. Not soft and fuzzy but looks like if you touched it they would be hard.

They're in quarantine together right now and I'm doing my usual melafix, pimafix, methelyne blue treatment but I really hate treating by guessing.

Between that and the turtle burn victim that showed up earlier, I'm going to be busy the next few weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 2:06 am

Holy crap! I have no Idea what that could be. I can do some searching to help ya out.
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 2:42 am

I'm not ever going to turn down help. Wink

I just wish I had thought to take pictures of it before I dumped the blue in. When I do the next water change (48 hours from now with the meds in there now) I'll take some shots and see how it's doing.

I did a closer exam on the gold (Are they gold or albino?) and it has some gill damage as well. That one is hard to tell if it's fighting or from some other older damage.

I feel bad. The store is being forced to use some other vendor for their christmas fish promotions and the fish coming in are all in *horrible* shape. They've managed to fill every quarantine tank they have in the store, and all mine here as well.

They're out of room, and I'm out of tanks. I told them I can't take anything else unless they start giving me some tanks. It's apparently been bad enough that the fish manager and the other assistant manager girl are all for giving me a bunch of their used 20s, they just want to make sure the head manager isn't going to have a problem with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 3:11 am

I've done some further research, and the closest match I've seen so far is
Lymphocystis. The pictures I've seen online look more cauliflower than crystal, but this is currently smaller than the pics I've seen.

My vet friend is coming over tomorrow to drop off meds for the burnt turtle, and thinks we should do a biopsy on it. (read: wants to)
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 8:43 am

Wow keep us posted!
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyTue Dec 23, 2008 1:02 am

Yup. Lymphocystis. Fish Herpes, essentially. Stress causes outbreaks, and seems like quarantine, salt and water changes are the best bet for it to clear up the outbreak. It will never go away. Some people recommend killing the infected fish, I'm not sure what to do about it just yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyTue Dec 23, 2008 8:54 am

If can spread to other fish you might want to keep it in a tank by itself.
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyTue Dec 23, 2008 9:31 am

HMMMM.................
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyTue Dec 23, 2008 10:47 am

If it is recommended to euthenize than that might be your best bet.
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptyWed Dec 24, 2008 2:29 am

Well the two that came in together are both quarantined together. From what I've been reading it's only contagious when it's active, so I'm going to assume the other one has it as well.

I'm not sure what to do with it at this point. Some sources believe euthanasia is the best option to keep it from spreading. Other sources disagree since it's only contagious when active and so long as the fish isn't too stressed it's fine.

Interestingly enough the divide seems to be based on fresh water or salt water.

Right now I am going to take the route of most of the saltwater folks that have dealt with this, and that is to keep the fish alive, unless the growths start covering their mouth so that they can't eat.

Ideally I'd like to find somewhere where the two can just be a single species tank. Supposedly the sores will clear up in a month and the fish will go back to looking normal.
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PostSubject: Re: Funky JDs   Funky JDs EmptySun Apr 26, 2009 11:37 pm

any updates what ended up happening to the JD's
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