The Natives are Restless...

Subject: The Natives are Restless... Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:15 pm

Anyone interested in native North American species besides me? Or in some cases for a few members, European species? Know it could be argued that fish from the southern states aren't cold water, but most don't truly fall under tropical either.

Anyways, back in college I kept plains killifish (Fundulus zebrinus), johnny darters (Etheostoma nigrum ) and Iowa darters (Etheostoma exile). The killies are very attractive. The darters are kind of dull outside of spawning dress, but make up for it with personality. Collecting your own fish is kinda fun as well.

WYite

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:49 pm

I have seen a tank with some native sunfish in it and they are beautiful.

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:11 pm

I'd like to have a native tank some day... Very Happy

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:19 pm

Mostlycichlids wrote:: I'd like to have a native tank some day...

Heck, were only what, 'bout a 120 miles from each other? Don't recall if I ever mentioned it, I'm in Cheyenne. Ya got an extra 20 long or 30? Nice size for darters. Could meet for a days collectin' trip or two this summer if you're interested.

WYite

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:23 am

That would be cool, I would be up for something like that for sure!

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:19 pm

i have been interested in muskie or northern for my outdoor pond

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:27 pm

jsorensen wrote:: i have been interested in muskie or northern for my outdoor pond

I've been readin' yer thread with saint_felony on that. They are cool fish. Bein' game fish, ya would want to make sure ya clarify the legality and licensing requirements (if any) of it in Missouri before ya got any. Importation of pike into Wyoming for example, requires a certification of health by a certifified aquatic veterinarian, and then an additional permit to keep them.

WYite

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:30 pm

yeah it would be hard. i would need to keep the reciepts because they would be below the keep standards of muskie in Missouri and i could only get 1 per person at my house which would be 4 so idk i still need to find someone who will sell me 4 of them or if they are in Missouri if they could find a loophole or a better way to do that

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:09 pm

I would love to have a tank of Small mouth bass so I could go fly fishing year round Twisted Evil

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:10 pm

hahaha that would be a lot easier than the ones in the rivers lol

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:16 pm

Or I could just drive to LL Beans and fly fish in there indoor ponds.

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:22 pm

I would love to have 2-3 Bluehead Sucker, Catostomus discobolus or a smaller tank with Orangespotted sunfish, Lepomis humilis and or Red shiner, Cyprinella lutrensis

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:23 pm

in a tank or a pond?

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:28 pm

Tanks!

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:30 pm

oh somewhere in AC there is a pic of a tank full of bass and sunfish

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:28 pm

I would love a native tank, I always wanted 5-6 yellow perch in my 65g (we have some awesome colorful jumbos up here). But in Canada it is near impossible to get a license to keep natives, and it is a research license to boot. And the paperwork required to ship in the similar US natives is astronomical. And then if fish & wildlife get wind of natives, Canadian or other, the hassle just isn't worth it.

The Turtle Whisperer Posts : 1930

You could always bring a few home from the local pond. Wink

The sunfish are pretty, but aggressive. My brother found or caught a few for one of my mom's many outdoor ponds, and they didn't get along with anything.

If I had the room outside, I'd give a snapper or two a home. They can be mean bastards, but once they get used to you they're pretty chill. I have eastern boxies and I guess by this point Red Ear Sliders might as well be called natives. Wink

Not exactly native, but Diamondbacks are in MD and South Jersey too. Close enough I suppose.

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:02 am

Well, gonna collect a few natives this summer. Still up for that, MC? Orange-throat darters have been moved to endangered status in Wyoming, so probly won't receive permission to collect my own. May contact the Colorado fish and game to see how they feel about a non-resident collectin' a half dozen or so. Can still collect iowa darters, johnny darters, and plains killies, though. Not sure I wanna go through the licensing headache for keeping game fish species.

Diamondback, saint? As in terrapin or rattlesnake? Wink

Oh yeah, nothin' venomous...

WYite

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:41 am

Wyomingite wrote:: Well, gonna collect a few natives this summer. Still up for that, MC? Orange-throat darters have been moved to endangered status in Wyoming, so probly won't receive permission to collect my own. May contact the Colorado fish and game to see how they feel about a non-resident collectin' a half dozen or so. Can still collect iowa darters, johnny darters, and plains killies, though. Not sure I wanna go through the licensing headache for keeping game fish species.

Diamondback, saint? As in terrapin or rattlesnake? Oh yeah, nothin' venomous...

WYite

Definately!

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:49 am

Thats it I'm going fishing today!

The Turtle Whisperer Posts : 1930

Terrapins. There's no native diamondback rattlers in PA. We got eastern massasauga and timber rattlers though..

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:11 pm

does anybody here keep channel cats? or know how they breed? im going to get some soon for my 500 gal pond gonna put some bass and maybe bluegill in there. any help would be appreciated

The Turtle Whisperer Posts : 1930

I've had 'em. They come in now and again when people get the little cutie two inchers and don't know they turn into cutie 3 footers. Wink

The fish farm breeds 'em, so I can ask for ya next time I'm up there if there's anything special you'd need to do.

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:32 pm

ok thanks SF

Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:56 pm

Mostlycichlids wrote:

Wyomingite wrote:: Well, gonna collect a few natives this summer. Still up for that, MC? Orange-throat darters have been moved to endangered status in Wyoming, so probly won't receive permission to collect my own. May contact the Colorado fish and game to see how they feel about a non-resident collectin' a half dozen or so. Can still collect iowa darters, johnny darters, and plains killies, though. Not sure I wanna go through the licensing headache for keeping game fish species.

Diamondback, saint? As in terrapin or rattlesnake? Oh yeah, nothin' venomous...

WYite

Definately!

For that matter, anybody here is welcome if yer gonna be in the area.

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