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ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Magnum 350 Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:44 am | |
| Well I have a 100gal tank and wanted to know if I can split the hose into 2 for both the in and out take hoses. The reason being is that I want to have a filter on both sides of the tank. I plan on useing a tee connector as the connector and then buy another intake and outlet tube. So my question is that is it posible to spit the single intake and outlet to 2 intakes and 2 outlets without losing power? | |
| | | cooltow1 Member
Posts : 96
Age : 74 Location : Sarasota Fl Humor : once upon a time Favorite Fish : only GOLDFISH
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:50 am | |
| Never split the intake ( don't see a reason you couldn't) but I split the output all the time to drive Pro 60 Bio-wheels without any problem what so ever
Rick | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:22 pm | |
| I would think it would put more drag on the filter....By splitting the intake, I think the filter would work harder by trying to pull more water in. I would think it would be harder to prime and get started with a dual intake setup. I guess you could try it as it wouldn't cost too much to do the modification, see how it works. Splitting the out side would be fine but not to sure about the intake side. | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:15 pm | |
| - Mostlycichlids wrote:
- I would think it would put more drag on the filter....By splitting the intake, I think the filter would work harder by trying to pull more water in. I would think it would be harder to prime and get started with a dual intake setup. I guess you could try it as it wouldn't cost too much to do the modification, see how it works. Splitting the out side would be fine but not to sure about the intake side.
What do you me priming it? And is it bad if it has more drag and works harder? Well about to go buy the parts and my plan is that Im just going to buy like a 6 ft hose, 2 tee connectors and another set of intake and outlet. And from these plans I think you guys know where Im going with it. | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
Posts : 561
Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:45 pm | |
| I agree with MC that it could cause the pump to work harder, that could cause it to break down. I also don't see how this is a benefit to do, the filter will still only circulate so many gph ( unless your modification reduces it). I would just put the inlet on one side and the out let on the other. | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:39 pm | |
| Well just setup everything and everything looks good. No leaks, but one thing is that its not as fast and its not as slow. Is that good? Also guess what people I think I have a male and female oscar because I just put in the new oscar and the both are playing and swimming togther. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:49 am | |
| I still wouldnt mess with the intake...you could end up burning up your filter or working it harder than necessary. The only benefit to splitting the out side is you will get more movement throughout the entire tank. Do you have pics of the modification?
Just cause the Oscars are swimming together don't mean you have a Male/Female. Watch them for any aggression now and in the next months. | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
Posts : 561
Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:54 pm | |
| Hope it all works out and pics would be cool. | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:16 am | |
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| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:24 am | |
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| | | dirtydawg10 Global Moderator
Posts : 3098
Age : 52 Location : Connecticut Favorite Fish : Severum
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:44 am | |
| Nice looking tank! It seems like an odd shape for a 100gal. Is it a custom tank? The depth seems very shallow and I'm just wondering if it will be tight for the O's once they get a little bigger. | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:47 am | |
| I was wondering is it true that carbon can cause hith? | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
Posts : 561
Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:45 pm | |
| If I remember correctly some do think it is a factor to HITH, but that it's due to cheap and poorly rinsed carbon. It is suggested that you use good quality carbon and rinse it well. I think the main cause is a poor diet and there is also a parasite that if I remember correctly is thought to cause it.
Nice pics, keep us updated on the fish and you filter set up. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:44 pm | |
| There are lots of theories about HITH....none of which IMO have any scientific backing. IMO poor water quality and poor diet will cause HITH 10x faster than using carbon.....but then again that is just my own theory. | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:06 pm | |
| I see. I was wondering what kind of bottom feeder can I put with the oscar because they eat the krill and the spit back the scales of the krill. | |
| | | dirtydawg10 Global Moderator
Posts : 3098
Age : 52 Location : Connecticut Favorite Fish : Severum
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:31 pm | |
| - Mostlycichlids wrote:
- There are lots of theories about HITH....none of which IMO have any scientific backing. IMO poor water quality and poor diet will cause HITH 10x faster than using carbon.....but then again that is just my own theory.
I agree with MC's theory. Most fish I see with HITH have come from poor conditions and poor diet. Hey Ninja, maybe i missed it but did you post the depth of your 100gal? | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:03 pm | |
| 61x27x13. Just checked and its a 90gal. bump to my last post | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:43 pm | |
| - ninjastar wrote:
- I see. I was wondering what kind of bottom feeder can I put with the oscar because they eat the krill and the spit back the scales of the krill.
They are messy eaters....very messy. Your pretty stocked now. | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:45 pm | |
| Thats a 90-100g tall tank, 61Lx13Wx27H from the looks of it, not 61Lx27Wx13H, I could be wrong tho. In any case a very odd shaped tank. | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:57 pm | |
| Whops sorry. So theirs nothing that I can put in their with them that could be their clean up crew for the oscars? Also is my filteration good enough or should I buy another one? | |
| | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler
Posts : 1781
Age : 56 Location : Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor : "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish : I won't choose and ya can't make me!
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:32 am | |
| - dirtydawg10 wrote:
- Mostlycichlids wrote:
- There are lots of theories about HITH....none of which IMO have any scientific backing. IMO poor water quality and poor diet will cause HITH 10x faster than using carbon.....but then again that is just my own theory.
I agree with MC's theory. Most fish I see with HITH have come from poor conditions and poor diet... And I'll triple that. Sorry guys, this last set of graveyards kicked my ass and any kind of deep thought has been rough the past few days. Looking good ninjastar. WYIte | |
| | | ninjastar Member
Posts : 124
Age : 33 Location : Carson,CA Favorite Fish : Oscar,Jack dempsey
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:19 am | |
| So I was wondering what can I do about the messy oscar? Can I put some bottom feeders? | |
| | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler
Posts : 1781
Age : 56 Location : Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor : "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish : I won't choose and ya can't make me!
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:25 pm | |
| The biggest problem with oscars, and other large cichlids, is that the bottom feeders small enough to notice the morsels that the oscars drop are small enough for the oscars to eat. Cory cats, nom nom nom. Siamese algae eaters, nom nom nom. Smaller loaches, nom nom nom. A large pleco will get the larger chunks, but you'll need to supplement it's diet with algae wafers or blanched veggies, and it won't even begin to get all the smaller morsels that oscars are notorious for. Your best bet is probably pond snails, ramshorn snails, or Malaysian trumpet snails. They multiply and your oscars may or may not pick off extra snails that reproduce. You won't be upset if the oscars eat excess snails, I doubt you'll be happy if they eat a catfish that ya bought.
WYite | |
| | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist
Posts : 4566
Age : 44 Location : New Mexico USA Favorite Fish : Jaguar Cichlid
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:08 pm | |
| I would just invest in a python and do more water changes....the tanks dimensions are not really adequate for the Oscars adult size. As stated you got yourself a "tall" tank although volume is ok for them there wont be much turning room. A larger pleco would be ok but the growth rate of the Oscars and the growth rate of a pleco will not be the same. The Oscars will grow way faster than any pleco and likely make a snack of it. I would wait till they get bigger and just increase water changes for a while....Filtration is good for now...once they get bigger you will need more filtration, maybe 3-4 months from now. | |
| | | Celticwraith FWM Graphic Designer
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Age : 57 Location : Ontario, Canada Humor : Some times! Favorite Fish : All the ones I have.
| Subject: Re: Magnum 350 Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:14 pm | |
| I have a python one of the best aquarium tools, makes doing water changes a breeze. | |
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