Well I have 2 oscar,1 serveurm,1jd,red tail botia and a pleco in the tank. Everyone is swim and no one is fighting. And I think that I have a male and female oscar because they swim with each other and dont fight. But then my jd just sits at the bottom corner of my tank right behind my big bonsai tree and does nothing. When theirs food everyone eats but him. He swims now and then but only around the tree which is on the far right of the tank and he never goes to the left side of the tank or to the top. Is this a good thing or bad? And do you guys think I have a male and female?

ninja, ur rushing into things
u went from a nicely stocked 55, 2 a crowded 55, to a crowded 55 with an oscar
then a 100 w/ 2 oscars and a red botia, to an overstocked 100

Im sad now. Just went to look at my fish and the jd was being pushed by my powerhead. He was struggling for air and had a last stand push and then he pasted. When he was struggling I was trying to help him by reviving him, but he didnt make it. When I firsted put him in the tank he wasnt acting right. He would stay on the corner and had his fin clamped to his side, but evernow and then move to a different spot and had his fins clamped. I feel real sad right now. I dont know if he was sick from the beginning or my water is bad. But I highly doubt that because everyone is eatting and swimming fine.

You better hope that those two oscars are not male and female. If they pair up, everything in that tank is going to die.

Unfortunately there's too many fish in that tank.

ninjastar wrote:

Well I have 2 oscar,1 serveurm,1jd,red tail botia and a pleco in the tank.

What happened to just keeping the 2 Oscars in the 100g?

A test kit is a MUST...especially in a new tank. The JD could of been sick already and by not acclimating properly could have made him weaker. Also you'd better hope that he didn't introduce disease into your tank or you may end up with other dead or sick fish....sorry to hear he died. First thing I would do is get a test kit which has been recommended on several occasions. Secondly acclimate and and quarantine new fish properly. Lastly if you are going to overstock that tank I would triple the filtration you already have and plan to do several large water changes each month.

SBL is right, I also agree with what the others have said, and if those Oscars are male/female not only will they destroy everything else in the tank but with that size tank you can bet that the female will get pretty beat up is any mating goes on. The Male may harass her to death so be prepared to move her or him. Not to mention you never mentioned that you were getting a 100g TALL tank which is not beneficial for the adult size of the species you are keeping. The tank you have would be more suitable for Discus, Angels or smaller Cichlids. I promise you if you follow advise we are giving you and slow down you will be able to enjoy the hobby much more and will be much more successful.

Celticwraith wrote:

ninjastar wrote:

Well I have 2 oscar,1 serveurm,1jd,red tail botia and a pleco in the tank.

What happened to just keeping the 2 Oscars in the 100g?

My Parents bought the extra fish.

Mostlycichlids wrote:

A test kit is a MUST...especially in a new tank. The JD could of been sick already and by not acclimating properly could have made him weaker. Also you'd better hope that he didn't introduce disease into your tank or you may end up with other dead or sick fish....sorry to hear he died. First thing I would do is get a test kit which has been recommended on several occasions. Secondly acclimate and and quarantine new fish properly. Lastly if you are going to overstock that tank I would triple the filtration you already have and plan to do several large water changes each month.

SBL is right, I also agree with what the others have said, and if those Oscars are male/female not only will they destroy everything else in the tank but with that size tank you can bet that the female will get pretty beat up is any mating goes on. The Male may harass her to death so be prepared to move her or him. Not to mention you never mentioned that you were getting a 100g TALL tank which is not beneficial for the adult size of the species you are keeping. The tank you have would be more suitable for Discus, Angels or smaller Cichlids. I promise you if you follow advise we are giving you and slow down you will be able to enjoy the hobby much more and will be much more successful.

Went to the LPS and the water is normal. And also Im already saving up to buy a 300gal+ tank. I already put $100 away for the tank. But ya I was sad that my jd died. I gave it a name and everything. But the moment I put him in the tank I knew something wasnt right and then agian when he didnt move or eat.

I would explain to your parents the problems over stocking your tank will cause and polity ask them to take back the other fish and refrain from purchasing anymore. If this is a family project ask one of your parents to join the forum to get more help.

YOU NEED A TEST KIT...your LFS water test are not sufficient. A good test kit here in Canada is $39.99 and that is for a Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Freshwater Master Test Kit. In the US you would be looking at paying $21.89.

I agree, do your own tests dont rely on the LFS to read your water. I have a hard time believing the water is perfect, and water can change real quick esp in a new setup....I am just trying to save you some time and work.

Didn't you say your uncle gave you the tank? Did he keep fish in it before he gave it to you? Maybe he has a test kit sitting around you could swipe?

saint_felony wrote:

Didn't you say your uncle gave you the tank? Did he keep fish in it before he gave it to you? Maybe he has a test kit sitting around you could swipe?

na all of his fish died and he didnt want to take care of it anymore. He doesnt I checked. But Im going to Petsmart tom. What kind of test kit should I get? (The 5in1 the 6in1 the liquid test kit)

Get the freshwater master kit from API.

Mostlycichlids wrote:

A test kit is a MUST...especially in a new tank. The JD could of been sick already and by not acclimating properly could have made him weaker. Also you'd better hope that he didn't introduce disease into your tank or you may end up with other dead or sick fish....sorry to hear he died. First thing I would do is get a test kit which has been recommended on several occasions. Secondly acclimate and and quarantine new fish properly. Lastly if you are going to overstock that tank I would triple the filtration you already have and plan to do several large water changes each month.

SBL is right, I also agree with what the others have said, and if those Oscars are male/female not only will they destroy everything else in the tank but with that size tank you can bet that the female will get pretty beat up is any mating goes on. The Male may harass her to death so be prepared to move her or him. Not to mention you never mentioned that you were getting a 100g TALL tank which is not beneficial for the adult size of the species you are keeping. The tank you have would be more suitable for Discus, Angels or smaller Cichlids. I promise you if you follow advise we are giving you and slow down you will be able to enjoy the hobby much more and will be much more successful.

Mostlycichlids wrote:

Get the freshwater master kit from API.

I agree 100% with what MC has suggested. That tank is well overstocked and you will have a tough time keeping the nitrates in check with water changes.

I am not at all positive on this, but I *think* the 6 in 1 kit from petsmart is the same as the API master kit.

As for the tank size, I wish we had asked you for measurements before this all started. That tank you have is an extremely uncommon size. A regular 100g is 18 wide x20 tall x62 long and your tank is 12x26x62. That width is going to cause problems for any fish that normally grows out to about a foot.

Given how uncommon they are, I'm going to guess that ninjastar honestly didn't know the difference, and just got excited about the free tank. I know I'd get all excited about a free 100g tank, tall normal or otherwise.

So right now, I'm not sure what to tell you. I know you're not going to get rid of the Os, but in short order they're going to need a wider tank.

Nevermind that no matter what the tank is still overstocked. Oy.

Well Im putting money away for a bigger tank. Im willing to buy a 500gal tank if need being. But ya Im putting money away for it and if I put away $50 each week which in 4-6 months i will have over 1000 and that would be more than enough to buy a good size tank with a good size filter. And then after that I might convert my previous tank to a satwater tank.

Well, honestly 180g is plenty enough for what you have in the 100g and some. A 180g is a very nice sized tank....Which I would shoot for.

Are you sure a 180gal is good enough? Also if I do get lets say a 200 or 300gal tank can I put a arrowana with them?

Whoa, buddy! Rein in those horses!

Seriously, arowanas open a whole other can of worms. Due to their length, they need tanks that are wide and long. At a minimum, I don't reccomend putting an aro in anything less than an 8' long by 3' wide tank. It could be argued 200 gallons is enough volume for an aro, the real problem is the footprint of the standard 180-225 gallon tanks. They are 6' long by 2' wide. In a tank that size, there is a very high probability that an arowana will develop health issues and deformities.

As for the fish you have, redneck woman is correct, a 180 gallon tank will be adequate.

WYite

I see well I will wait till I get that tank. When I get that 200gal tank what else can I put in their?

How about researching fish you like. Then come back and discuss what you like. I would wait till you get the tank to start thinking about what to get.

lol

Will another magnum 350 help? Even though I moded the one I have?

ninjastar wrote:

Will another magnum 350 help? Even though I moded the one I have?

Magnum 350 is rated for 350 gallons per hour on a 100g tank thats a water turnover of 3.5 times an hour. I would shoot for 1000 gallons per hour. So two magnums would give you a turnover rate of 7 times. The rating is for brand new filters that are empty so once full the flow rate will decrease. Now that being said more contact with media also means more efficient filtration and stronger bacteria growth.

So I guess there is no right answer but IMO more filtration is better and you can't really over filter. Make the decision yourself I guess is what I would suggest....If it was my tank I would have as much filtration as I could afford.